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  • scooter
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    Ditto to what Claude says.

    For me, I wouldn't be changing carving styles (say, foregoing figure carving for relief carving, Santas for chip carving, etc) simply for safety reasons. That'd be out of the question. Instead, with _every_ cut, your brain should be calculating where the knife will travel when the wood in front of it is done being cut, or gives way. Make sure all body parts are behind the business end of the tool, at all times.

    Of course wear a quality (look at Skytec) glove, but know that a glove isn't a guarantee against every slice/stab. I myself have sliced and cut through countless gloves.

    S~

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  • Paul_Guraedy
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    I have been on blood thinner (Pradaxa) for years. Changed to it from warfarin. When put on blood thinner I told my physician, "I am not going to quit or modify my woodcarving. What do you recommend?" His answer, "Be as careful as you can and invest in lots of bandaids." I have cut myself only once while carving, I had removed the safety glove, was putting things away and decided to make "one more cut"....drove a gouge into the palm of my hand. Most of my cuts have come from using a kitchen knife on food! Even a small puncture from trimming rose bushes leaves a huge bruise under the skin. A cut or even a scrape takes a while to stop bleeding. My arms have multiple under the skin bleeding spots from even bruises.

    A quick word on blood thinner. When the "scare" adds provided by lawyers started I went to my doc. How about all of this bleeding out stuff? His answer, "Paul it does happen. So does allergic reactions from bee stings. Now, you have a choice. You can go on blood thinner which has proven to reduce the possibility of stroke or heart attack. Or you can skip the blood thinner and repeat the Afib and Storke episodes that you have already experienced. I chose modern medicine. Not perfect but, in the twilight of a life lived with abandon......I need all the help I can get!

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  • leavyc
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    I have Marv Kaisersatt's book on carving caricatures. In the book Marv gives directions on making a wood piece that attaches to your table with clamps, or you could mount it permanently. I find that o be very helpful in carving. It gives me something to support the wood piece and to push against if need be. The book is invaluable if you are interested in getting to the design stage of carving. I find that it has been very helpful and wish I had had one before. My shoulder left shoulder would get sore from holding it in one position as I carved , I am right handed, this as alleviated the problem. You may very well find that this is just one more helpful tool.

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  • John Kaner
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    Thank you! Great information. Need to maintain the focus and not have blind faith in the glove... Or as I also heard "don't put anything in front of the blade that bleeds"...

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  • Claude
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    John: all good advice so far. My suggestion is to plan each cut by looking at where the blade will go WHEN the wood breaks or the knife slips. If any part of the anatomy is in the expected path, either change the cut path, or move the anatomy!!! Example: holding the wood in one hand while carving: hard to avoid a cut when a slip or break occurs. Holding the carving down on a table or workbench and making the cut towards the table may damage the table a bit, but won't damage the hand.

    Claude

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  • Eddy-Smiles
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    John...That was the same location where I had my last cut that brought about the ultimatum from the Great White Chief that lives in my house.

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  • John Kaner
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    Great information all. She is a Senior and recently had a hospital stay when they found A-Fib. Zoralto is the thinner they're using. Some kind of drug to control the rate and high pressure meds.
    She had cut that glove between the thumb and index finger, right thru the glove! Good idea to get her a stainless steel glove!

    I really appreciate the info and fast reponses!

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  • Eddy-Smiles
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    Blood thinners are a touchy subject with me. The drug industry keeps finding more and more ways to thin up the blood but in doing so they don't bother to develop anything to counteract the drugs. I've been on various blood thinners for 11-years now. Started out with Warfarin and Heparin, then once my A-fib was stabilized I was put on 385 aspirin for 8-years. More recently, because of the lack of A-fib incidents that's been dropped to the small aspirin 81 mg. I always felt comfortable with the rat poison (Wayfarin) because in a serious emergency they can give you a blood clotting shot that will counteract the drug. Heck, eat too much green salad and you blow the number all to heck! Same with aspirin, no problem.

    However with these new drugs there is definitely a problem. I lost my step-mom after she hit her head when she was knocked down in a parking lot. She was on Pradaxa. She bled internally and there was no way to stop it. I don't know about the other drugs in that class but they sound about the same to me. Just listen to the last warning on all of the blood thinner advertisements. "May cause serious bleeding." I wouldn't recommend any of these new drugs for anyone, especially seniors.

    But with that said, I use to be a regular visitor at the Emergency Room. Got to be on a first name basis with the Dr. and nurses. Mama finally told me to fix the problem or give up carving. I wasn't about to give up carving and as I've said before I went on the Lee Valley website and purchased myself a stainless steel chain link glove. I wear a lightweight cotton glove underneath it for comfort and a thumb guard on the other hand. Knock on wood I haven't cut myself in over two years. Of course it's not a matter of if but when I'll do something really stupid and break my chain of good luck but using it normally and practically, it's a safe alternative for anyone afraid of cutting themselves. A knife will not slice through it.




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  • squbrigg
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    I hear ya Steve, to someone who has carved all their life, stopping because of a problem like that isn't realistic. Or at least in my opinion it isn't. You may as well drive a gouge through my heart, rather than tell me I can no longer carve. I'm not of Warfarin yet, just Asprin daily so far, but regardless, I am going to carve until I can no longer hold a gouge. I came close in 1998 due to a car accident, but found my way back over a long slow road called recovery. Being able to carve saved my life. I had to re-learn, or re-awaken my skills, a brain injury sure does slow you down, but I kept at it and slowly over came. Now, it is the best therapy that I can do. Carving is more than a hobby, it is what I do.

    Bob

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  • Steve Reed
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    I guess I'll add my $.02. I am on Warfarin, required since my super dynawhoppin' artificial heart valve installation. It took me about a year and a half to be able to carve at all, but I'm back at it. Just tell her to be careful, and keep band-aids and and/or super glue or "wound seal" handy. My doc asked if I ever considered another "hobby", and I replied with it's more than a hobby, and if he ever consider giving up golf? He gave me the same look I gave him.

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  • Nomad
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    I would add some extra protection to those gloves by wrapping the thumb and maybe a finger or two with carving tape. The best I've found is called Wimp Wrap and you can get it from the Woodcraft Shop.

    http://www.thewoodcraftshop.com/stor...WIMP-WRAP.html

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  • John Kaner
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    Thank you all for your helpful suggestions. I really appreciate it!

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  • pallin
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    I have more difficulties with thorny bushes in the yard than my woodcarving, but I agree with Arthur that choosing a form of carving where you clamp down the work would be safer.

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  • Steev
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    Got to agree with Arthur. Always use a holding device and the chance of getting cut will drop dramatically.

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  • Arthur C.
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    She could consider relief carving using gouges. That would eliminate the situation of holding a carving in her hands. Or using a carving vise or screw.

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