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  • Gouge Question

    Picked these up at a yard sale, don't know anything about them. A little help about these gouges?

    Thanks, Chris
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  • #2
    Two cherries, certainly in my top 2 or 3 brands.
    Ed
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    • #3
      Where do you find them?

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      • #4
        I see a 5/12 and a 5/6. The first number is the sweep, the curve, and the second number
        will be the width in millimeters. Two Cherries is a top European brand (Austria? Germany?)
        Brian T

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        • #6
          Those are great tools!
          Arthur

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          • #7
            Great find. A top brand tool.
            We live in the land of the free because of the brave!

            https://www.pinterest.com/carvingbarn0363/

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            • #8
              They are good carving tools, but will not automatically make you a good carver.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Brian T View Post
                I see a 5/12 and a 5/6. The first number is the sweep, the curve, and the second number
                will be the width in millimeters. Two Cherries is a top European brand (Austria? Germany?)
                Brian...either one, take your pick...German is the national language of Austria...the giveaway is the word, 'Seit'...meaning Since. 2 Cherries is a very good brand...I am familiar with their small detail knife, but not their gouges.

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                • #10
                  I would put Two cherries at the top but not the best due to sharpening issues..... The Two Cherroes/Hirsch chisels is German made. Their steel has a good reputation, but equally, there are lots of complaints about the time it takes to flatten the backs of the blades (you cannot sharpen them properly until this is done) because they get rounded when polished at the factory. But Two Cherries also manufacture an unpolished set, which is the better choice in these circumstances. They have changed names a few times I think... I have a load of them.

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                  • #11
                    I haven't got any of those Two Cherries tools. In fact, I have never even held one in my hand.
                    Brian T

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Dileon View Post
                      . . . the time it takes to flatten the backs of the blades (you cannot sharpen them properly until this is done) .
                      This would only apply to bench chisels or #1 carving tools, Di. You cannot flatten the back of a gouge. The #5's in the photos, for example, are not flat on either side.

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                      • #13
                        Two Cherries/Kirschen is a german brand.
                        There is a german website dealing with the history of tool manufacturers and dealers.

                        https://www.holzwerken.de/museum/her...kirschen.phtml (unfortunately mostly in german but with an english sitemap https://www.holzwerken.de/sitemap.phtml)

                        The original company merged over the years with a lot of manufacturers and the quality of steel and the end product changed.
                        As far as I know are several other brands taken over by two cherries and they still are sold under their old name.
                        E.g. DASTRA has still an own shop https://www.dastra.shop/en/Willkommen.html but is a part of Wilh. Schmitt & Comp. GmbH & Co. KG in Remscheid.
                        And now as far as I heared they use another kind of steel. The same steel as the Wilh. Schmitt & Comp. GmbH & Co KG.

                        In 2009 th company took over several other companys. I heared the rumor that on this time all of the companys changed their steel and before it was better. So told in some german woodworker Websites.

                        I hope I didn't bore you with that information.
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                        If you don't like to call me wasserretter call me Dirk

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                        • #14
                          Wasserretter - The information tells me that companies and their products may change, Their business goals may shift to profits, rather than their traditional tool quality. We have to personally test each tool as to how it performs in our hands, how it holds an edge, etc.

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