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    Here is a challenge I found on another page . Adam and Eve.jpg The gal was wishing for bids on a relief 36 inches high.
    Above my pay grade.
    Chuck
    Chuck
    Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

    https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

  • #2
    I bet that gal has no idea what that will cost from a good carver!
    Arthur

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arthur C. View Post
      I bet that gal has no idea what that will cost from a good carver!
      Yepper. As was a gal here locally wanted a Cowboy boot 3' tall carved and made so she could have a 8" top for a planter. $$$$ She said Oh I thought just around 50.00.
      Yeah.
      Chuck
      Chuck
      Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

      https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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      • #4
        Wood carvings are usually considered folk art rather than fine art, even though the time to produce the item is about the same.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pallin View Post
          Wood carvings are usually considered folk art rather than fine art, even though the time to produce the item is about the same.
          Our carving club members have been denied participation in the local “Art in the Park” because it isn’t art. We have a non profit art gallery in town privately funded to “promote local artist” they informed me my work would not be appropriate for their gallery. Most, but not all of the work on display has been done teachers at the college or people in their circle.
          Ed
          https://www.ebay.com/sch/bmart50/m.h...1&_ipg=&_from=
          Local club
          https://www.facebook.com/CentralNebraskaWoodCarvers

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          • #6
            This would take a very long time to complete. Because to do such work it would have been a master that does this kind of old classical work and most of them are world-famous for it. Fred Zavadil could do it. Another member here would be Vladimir Rusinov he would be found in Ukraine.

            She could fly to Thailand might get a good price...but it would not be cheap. I would not touch it, with tons of details and very heavy precision work, it is not worth the time involved. Most classical woodcarvers are in Europe, lots of them in Italy, and also Russia. This is a very specialist field in carving.
            Last edited by Dileon; 10-06-2021, 12:00 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nebraska View Post

              Our carving club members have been denied participation in the local “Art in the Park” because it isn’t art. We have a non profit art gallery in town privately funded to “promote local artist” they informed me my work would not be appropriate for their gallery. Most, but not all of the work on display has been done teachers at the college or people in their circle.
              I used to do gallery work, it is a pain in the rear end. You get all kinds of idiots with views on what is an art item and what is not. Sort of like a war of what is craft vs...what is art. Plus whoever is runnings it has their own ideas of what they like and do not like in art. Plus you be surprised how many gallery owners are in it for the high society living culture vs business. Most teachers at college do not sell well is why they are in the education area. I can see why they're in a non-profit local more about showing work rather than sales They do not like nudes yet nudes on tv are ok.... some galleries are very high society and what is the latest trend. I stop doing them ...they get all the money and you get all the work. The last time I was turned down was this is not craft, it is art...and my mouth hit the ground. I am done with want-to-be art critic bs. smile.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nebraska View Post

                Our carving club members have been denied participation in the local “Art in the Park” because it isn’t art. We have a non profit art gallery in town privately funded to “promote local artist” they informed me my work would not be appropriate for their gallery. Most, but not all of the work on display has been done teachers at the college or people in their circle.
                Same in the deep south Ed. Fork art or a hobby But not real art in the so called art community. If you did the carving in stone or used clay and made a mold and filled it with hot bronz you would be a sculpture and welcome. Never mind the skill it takes to carve that detail in wood. Not alot of grain to deal with in clay. Not that working in clay is not a skill. I can get on my high horse over this subject.
                Last edited by Randy; 10-07-2021, 09:15 AM.
                We live in the land of the free because of the brave!
                https://www.pinterest.com/carvingbarn0363/

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                • #9
                  I was in Laguna Beach CA one summer. Went to the Laguna Beach Art Festival.
                  Well, "Lah - Dee - Dah." Was this not a snot-filled snooty event? Reasonable prices for a lot of
                  really well made pieces in stone, paint, glass and so on.

                  Then I learned that about 6-8 blocks down the road, there was a "Sawdust Art Festival."
                  Bunch of mavericks turned away by the big heads.
                  Wow. It was getting dark and the glass blowers were out in full force, their work was all aglow.
                  I sat and watched and bought 3 x 9" wine glasses (had to be furnace annealed over night).
                  I'll never forget seeing "MY" wine glasses come out of globs of glass. Chilled and stained with huge handfuls of wet newspapers (did you know that it makes the glass sooty purple?)

                  Another family was building dulcimer instruments.

                  Don't listen to the NO people. Do it now. Reject them and their opinions. Have a NOT ART showcase. Set up your own show down the road. Invite all kinds of artists, musicians included.
                  You will get backlash people like me. What's the address, again?
                  Brian T

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                  • #10
                    Update on the "Relief " Gal, she said it wood have to be about 3' wide too. I shuddered. Oh my. and yes all you IT IS of course just Folk art. . That is why we just putter around for hours, making chips and dust. I have been doing this for the last month on one project going nuts over a pair of hands, for kicks, as Ed is gong on and on and all the neat folk out there in computer land I would love to meet up with one day.
                    Well so much for that one. And Brian T "" That is interesting about the wine glasses, thanks for that tid bit! And Randy,, If I do more in my Soapstone? Does' that make me and artistes'ie guy? HA. IMG_0160.JPG IMG_0161.JPG This is Elmer, his feet and nose kept breaking so yeah glued the heck out of him Elmer.
                    Chuck
                    Chuck
                    Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

                    https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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                    • #11
                      I'm in love with Elmer already. That's exactly how many penguin species stand, sleeping in bad weather. I got to do a short soapstone carving course. We got to pick bandsaw-roughouts and go from there. I did a little turtle. I have lots of stone out back and zero ideas.
                      Brian T

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brian T View Post
                        I'm in love with Elmer already. That's exactly how many penguin species stand, sleeping in bad weather. I got to do a short soapstone carving course. We got to pick bandsaw-roughouts and go from there. I did a little turtle. I have lots of stone out back and zero ideas.
                        OMGoodness I must come visit! Here is his 6" wooden cousin IMG_0064.JPG The dark spot is in the wood. Also Seals are a real treat to do and I love stone. IMG_0175.JPG The trio Elmer is in the middle , little cousin is the tan on finished in BLO The large on was in process. I have given away most all my stone items (8=( but need a good source for stone in eastern WA.
                        Cheers.
                        Chuck
                        Chuck
                        Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

                        https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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                        • #13
                          There are mined soapstone steatite deposits in every province in Canada.
                          What do we get? We have to buy Brazilian soapstone. Fact.

                          I buy from Bedrock Supply in Edmonton, AB, if I find somebody to drive the stone
                          10 hours west to my place.

                          Somebody in Eastern WA is selling big stone. Basalt. Know of a sculptor in Calgary, AB who bought 10 tons of it. Power carved and absolutely stunning when polished. No ideas what else they might have (alabaster, serpentine, etc.)
                          Any big places selling stone between Ellensberg and the Columbia?
                          Brian T

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                          • #14
                            Have to agree with the statement ED made

                            QUOTE Our carving club members have been denied participation in the local “Art in the Park” because it isn’t art. We have a non profit art gallery in town privately funded to “promote local artist” they informed me my work would not be appropriate for their gallery. Most, but not all of the work on display has been done teachers at the college or people in their circle.

                            We have a monthly market of all sorts of stuff that people are wanting to sell in Titirangi Auckland NZ . People come from all over the place to sell their wares.

                            I do bird photography and thought it might be a good spot to maybe sell a few prints. I'm good enough at it to have made a few commercial sales and did the photoraphy for a zoo publication once. It paid for a large chunk of my gear. One of the lenses was 10K on its own. Got told no way it is full up. All I needed was room for a small table somwhere in the carpark so not a big deal at all.

                            So the Titirangi market is would appear is not for Titirangi residents. That being the case I have never spent a $ there. Suspect it is a case of WHO you know more than anything else.

                            So you guys haven't got it on your own.

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