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  • Ashbys
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    Wow Bob awesome site ! Added to favorites , something about those ships just make me want to head to the shore !

    Ash

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  • squbrigg
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    Susan....I have long admired the wood cuts/etchings done in earlier times and publications. For example the "Illustrated London News" was a long time favorite, their ship images where often quite awesome. Their artists were quite professional, though not seamen/seafarers, and you can tell the difference in their representation of the waves and sea action. Their ship portraiture was perfect, but their impression was often spoiled by unrealistic water, as is often the failing of painters of all periods who attempt to do sea scapes, if they only sea the sea from the shore. Out upon the sea, your perspective is different, as is the action of the waves in various sea states. The first modern painter to capture this difference was Chris Mayger, a British artist who went to sea on a liner with a film camera to capture accurate images at sea under various conditions. He studied the results and captured the effect well in his work. Geoff Hunt, Geoffrey Hubband, Mark Myers, John Groves, Roy Cross and Derek Gardner are among those who followed in his footsteps.

    Found a great link to ship and sea pictures www.eraoftheclipperships.com for those who enjoy that sort of thing. Inspiring!!!

    Bob

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  • Irish
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    Bob,

    When you get a chance to surf the net next look up pen and ink etchings, wood block carving, wood block etchings. All of these use a simple line technique for creating shading tones.

    There are quite a few techniques, perhaps the most known is cross hatching. Even if the etching is not an image that you would chose to burn you can find some great ideas on how an area was done. Albrecht Durer and E. C Echer (sp) are two artists that were very famous for their pen and ink work.

    Susan

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  • squbrigg
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    Susan....thanks for the tip. I can use all the pointers that I can get. I love the scene in the heart, a nice combination of tranquility and energy.

    Bob

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  • Mottles
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    Hi Wade: Thank you, I just came from Nedra's site and wow your right what a wonderful inspiration.
    Kathy

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  • Pyrographer
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    Thanks for the plug Wade. I agree that Sue Walter's work is outstanding and I took one of her books off the shelf. Her animals are amazing and I wish that I could master animals. Perhaps one of these days I'll start working on my fur (using Sue's book) so I can get more experience doing animals. We each have our own "thing" that we excel at, Sue's got her animals and I have my people, florals and lighthouses. Another excellent animal/wildlife burner is Orchid Davis who is here in the US and will be teaching at the Pyrography Festival here in Washington state next year. She will be doing one class on fur and one on feathers. I'm teaching two days but I'm hoping that I can get together with her and learn some of her techniques first hand. She has two books (I have both) and is working on a third. Worth getting!
    NedraIce Cream

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  • Irish
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    Bob,

    Try very fine lines that run with the curve of the sail. For dark shading make the spacing between the lines very tight. For light shading let the spacing be wider. Add a second and even third layer of lines for very dark shades.

    By following the curve of the sail you add to the idea of the sails being filled with wind and pulling against the points where they are anchored to the mast.

    Susan

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  • squbrigg
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    Thanks Susan, I will try to work on the shading more. It has always been a challenge to me, attempting to get it right. I've been studying Sue Walters book and trying some of her methods, but not all apply to sails or waves. Wink Not much hair, feathers or fur on a sailing ship. But the basics are similar.....I just need to take more time and do it right. Practice, practice, practice!

    Thanks again,

    Bob

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  • Irish
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    Hey Bob!

    Those ships are fantastic, love your detailing. The wave work, though, justblows me away. The shading through the top of the waves really gives them dimension! You might want to try adding a little more of that type of shading to the sail. Your first posting has a start to this shading and I can feel the sails filling with wind.

    Beatiful - can't wait to see the next.

    Susan

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  • squbrigg
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    Kathy....the scenes are burned onto the tops of unfinished boxes that you buy in local building supply craft section. They are made of Pine with a light plywood top, made in China, but no doubt using North American lumber. Nicely made, better joinery than I can manage!

    Thanks Wade, I'll do that, I'm always interested in learning to do things better and better....er....improving. Alfie and Susan have been a big help along the way. I'll check out Pyrographer's site.

    Pyro......I try to find images of ships painted at the time of their activity, so the painter would be long dead for generations, though I may sketch from a modern one, I change enough of the original to make it my own. I understand the copywright law thing, for the most part, I'm just passionate about the ships and the sea and love to see a well done image capture the moment of a ship under canvas rolling along the waves. I also make sure that if I use a modern image I identify the artist and image title that inspired the image burned into the back, next to my own name and date.
    Bob

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  • wade clark
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    Kathy,
    Hi!
    Check out Nedra's books too, she does some incredible work! She just posted before you as Pyrographer, and has several books you can probably find if you click on her links.
    Have fun!
    Wade

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  • Mottles
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    Hi Bob:
    First on all really nice work you captured the feel of the water and ship movement. I did have a newbie question though--what type of wood did you use for your two pieces? I've seen Sue Walters work online and looking forward to purchasing her book. As I need all the help I can get. lol
    Kathy

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  • Pyrographer
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    Very nice Bob, your starting to get the hang of this. Just keep in mind when using other people's paintings, photos, etc that they are copyright protected. Unless you get their written permission or make enough changes in the design(legal recommendation is 75%) that you can call it your own design you are infringing on copyright. Some artists are very nice about it and will give written permission without any fees. I had one photographer charge me $50 for a photo with rights to use it for a burning. This is also true for using someone else's pattern.

    This is why I use my own photos or just use part of something in a painting or photo only as a reference as part of a design I create. Talking

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  • bygeorge
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    There is nothing boring about these! They are really nice. Please continue to share with us.

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  • squbrigg
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    Thank you folks for your kind words of encouragement. I am having fun doing these, and there are so many ships I want to capture.

    I don't use patterns, just look for old paintings, prints or photographs of the ships and sketch from that. I've been drawing ships since I was a kid in school, daydreaming about the sea instead of paying attention in class. I'll sometimes use a model I've built as a "model" to get the right "attitude" or "perspective" of a ship I'm trying to draw...... heel, pitch or yaw. There are hundreds if not thousands of old ship portraits around the world. Before photography, a captain or owner would commission an artist to paint a portrait of his ship, and many artists specialized in this art form. Some ports had better artists than others, so ships painted entering certain ports are more numerous than others. IE: Naples, Italy.

    Bob

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