Female form carving

[Dark Lightning]

That's pretty sad. Do you think that the son might buy it in memoriam?

[Nebraska]

That's pretty sad. Do you think that the son might buy it in memoriam?

No. He is understandably upset. Apparently unaware of his mother’s college days activities, the posing for the art classes the living with Steve the art student. Not happy I have nude photos of his mom. Wants video of the sculpture and photos being destroyed and the non refundable deposit refunded.

Makes me think of the things I have done I my life that a may have not mentioned to my kids.
We forget our parents were people before they were parents.

The carving looks nice on our mantle so it’s all good from my perspective.

[Dark Lightning]

Looks like he's going to get one of the three things he wants. Obviously, he wasn't the contracting entity.

Edit to add. I was chuckling about the situation with my wife and she told me that when someone inherits, they inherit the debt as well as the goodies. Tell him if he wants this off the earth, he can finish paying the debt and pay postage. He can destroy whatever he likes.

[Nebraska]

Looks like he's going to get one of the three things he wants. Obviously, he wasn't the contracting entity.

Edit to add. I was chuckling about the situation with my wife and she told me that when someone inherits, they inherit the debt as well as the goodies. Tell him if he wants this off the earth, he can finish paying the debt and pay postage. He can destroy whatever he likes.

Don’t think I will offer that option I have been fortunate in life and don’t need the money.

[DiLeon]

I would end all contact at this point. The agreement was between you and the client. Which has passed away. The art is yours and not his because the deal was never finished and completed. I would not send the photo, videos of the sculpture, or anything......it is your property. I would never send my work to some inlaw that wants it off this earth. Heritage has nothing to do with this it is the end of the story as I see it. No options the work is yours...and no one else's. If I remember right the client had a younger year statue of herself somewhere. There is no debt here...as stated by you, they do not want it it is yours to do as you wish. I would not be talking to this person anymore.

I wonder if something happens as normally they show up and say they do not want the work. Sad she passed, sure the family is grieving right now.

[Claude]

I agree with Di - she didn't complete the deal, so the statue is yours. Technically, (and I'm not a lawyer) her ESTATE owes you the rest of the money - just like the estate has to pay off credit cards, utility bills, etc. But, trying to contact her estate executor might be a problem, especially if her son is the executor.

Claude

[brent]

Another WOW! Very nice work

[Nebraska]

Another WOW! Very nice work

Thanks Brent.

[Nebraska]

I agree with Di - she didn't complete the deal, so the statue is yours. Technically, (and I'm not a lawyer) her ESTATE owes you the rest of the money - just like the estate has to pay off credit cards, utility bills, etc. But, trying to contact her estate executor might be a problem, especially if her son is the executor.

Claude

My agreement on commissions is 50% deposit, 50% when they accept the completed project. If they don’t want the completed work I retain the deposit and the carving and we are done.

So I’m looking at this as the client or in this case her estate has rejected the finished project. So we are done.

I consider myself well paid for the experience of a challenging carving I enjoyed doing and am happy to have on our mantle. I’m looking at it as a win. Frankly I wasn’t looking forward to boxing this one up.

As for the photos I trashed the hard copies and deleted digital copies a few days after I applied the tung oil. As per my clients original instructions at the time she sent them to me that they be eliminated when the carving was completed.

[Randy]

Sad that it ended this way but It would seem the client was proud of what she had done or she would not have wanted a sculpture to memorialize it. Like you said you had the experance of doing a really oustanding of carving. And it is yours to enjoy. If you had sent it it would have been destroyed and that would have been sad.

[DiLeon]

Sad that it ended this way but It would seem the client was proud of what she had done or she would not have wanted a sculpture to memorialize it. Like you said you had the experience of doing a really oustanding of carving. And it is yours to enjoy. If you had sent it it would have been destroyed and that would have been sad.

Honestly, I would not want a statue of my mom naked in her older age ... too much to wrap my head around of what she was thinking? So I know what he is thinking to close to home and family, we like to remember mom as a mom. Bronze nudes of a woman I have about five in the house had tons of studio work drawing nudes for years and own a few nude men drawings done by a well-known artist, ....but they are not my belated mom nor dad. .... smile

[Nebraska]

Honestly, I would not want a statue of my mom naked in her older age ... too much to wrap my head around of what she was thinking? So I know what he is thinking to close to home and family, we like to remember mom as a mom. Bronze nudes of a woman I have about five in the house had tons of studio work drawing nudes for years and own a few nude men drawings done by a well-known artist, ....but they are not my belated mom nor dad. .... smile

Just to clarify. The sculpture being discussed is based on client photos taken when she was in college 40 years ago. Not that that would make it of any more interest to her son.

Again I’m fine with the resolution of this transaction.

[DiLeon]

Just to clarify. The sculpture being discussed is based on client photos taken when she was in college 40 years ago. Not that that would make it of any more interest to her son.

Again I’m fine with the resolution of this transaction.

Sorry I was just thinking if it was my mom. lt had nothing to do with your transaction. It is a good idea to take a 50 percent charge and the whole deal in the beginning. I go beyond that, the work is mine and I or the client can opt. out it at any time. If it is not to my liking you are not going to get it. Or if the client does not like it, no skin off my back. If the client wants something changed mid-project the deal is canceled, as I decide what is best for the work. I call this artist choice outranks clients. Full payment at the end. Ed... You are a lot nicer than I am in these dealings....smile.

I misunderstood the photos were 40 years ago... for some reason, I thought it was a before and after sculpture. I do know women who are in their late 60s and beyond that are very fit and firm due to major athletic lifestyles....in their older age for a sculpture. Add that to ones who have major plastic surgery everywhere like Cher. anyway, misunderstanding of the situation.

[sappy]

Ed, you did good and you made an old lady happy in her last days. The carving gods smile down upon you! Her son will have a change of heart one day, then you can talk to him.

[Glenn Jennings]

Hi Ed
Shame the poor lady didn't get to see it up close. Think you have taken the proper action in destroying the photos as per her her request so you have acted with integrity.

Shame the son couldn't respect his mums wishes and the choices she made in her life. Doesn't say much for him that he wants the money back on a commision he had nothing to do with instigating does it.

Nice that you get to enjoy something that you put a lot of time into creating for her. I think she would have been very happy with the piece and probably equally happy that you as its creater appreciate it as well.