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    I found a recipe for making this and have not ever used any of it. The person that does' has been useingthis for years. Now my?? is that , I know that it is a pre cover for painting , but.. Comments?
    Thanks
    Chuck
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  • #2
    Gesso is a old reliable sealer that paint can bond to well. Stops the splotchy look when the density of the grain verys and the paint absorbs in diferently across the wood. Better, as a rule, to do a coulpe of coats on wood.
    Last edited by Randy; 01-26-2022, 02:36 PM.
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    • #3
      I've used Gesso for oil painting on Canvas. Curious what your recipe is, Chuck?
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      • #4
        Although you can draw or paint directly on the wood with oils, watercolors, or dry drawing media, it is recommended that a barrier for most applications since it is easier to draw or paint directly on the wood.
        What Can I Use Instead Of Gesso On Wood? Gesso can be replaced by either a commercial acrylic primer or clear gesso. Additionally, it is possible to paint directly on the surface without primer or, if a cheap alternative to gesso is needed, to use a cheap alternative to gesso. Do You Need To Use Gesso On Wood? Gesso will be able to be used as a primer on wood. So what happens if you do not use gesso? In Gesso, the surface is prepared (or “primed”), so that it can be painted with acrylic paint. As a result, the paint would soak into the wood if it weren’t gessoed. Can You Paint Acrylic Directly On Wood?Painting on wood can be done with any type of acrylic you prefer. It takes about 20 minutes for acrylic paints to dry. I do not use gesso on my wood carving and use it on art canvass. It is noted with white gesso your paints will show purer in color due to the fact most colors are transparent somewhat and the color below it will show.
        . Explore! Dream! Discover!” aloha Di

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        • #5

          There are MANY different formulas for making gesso. Most use rabbit skin glue mixed with gypsum or chalk in a very exact way. One traditional method used by artist can be viewed here https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-t...0make%20gesso. Modern acrylic gesso is a combination of: Acrylic polymer medium (binder) Calcium carbonate (chalk).

          Both the traditional gesso and the modern gesso serve the same purpose - Gesso prepares (or "primes") the surface for painting, making the surface slightly textured and ready to accept paint.

          Which is better? May depend on the type of paint being used (oil, acrylic, tempra etc..) but, this is always a subject of a great debate.

          For me, the modern is cheap, easy and effective 'when needed' on a wood carving.
          John
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          • #6
            Wow! Who'd of "Gessed?"

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            • #7
              WOW!!Got a lot of great response's here, and after reading some of the comments is the mention of acrylic paint, so here is the mixture that I found.
              Now the chemists come out
              Chuck
              Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

              https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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              • #8
                Why did it not all get in?
                The recipe. I have found if I change fonts the system will not accept that portion of my notes.??
                Gesso
                1/4 Cup Baby Powder or Talcum powder
                1 Table Spoon Elmer's Glue "white"
                1 Table Spoon White Acrylic Paint
                Add as much water as need for the desired consistency
                And I guesso you can vary as much as you may want for quantity.
                Last edited by NoDNA; 01-26-2022, 05:39 PM.
                Chuck
                Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

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                • #9
                  I have only used gesso on bird carvings or on places where I was having trouble getting the paint coverage i wanted. I second Dileon where she says it is supposed to give you a purer idea of the color, which was helpful in painting birds.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DiLeon View Post
                    Although you can draw or paint directly on the wood with oils, watercolors, or dry drawing media, it is recommended that a barrier for most applications since it is easier to draw or paint directly on the wood.
                    What Can I Use Instead Of Gesso On Wood? Gesso can be replaced by either a commercial acrylic primer or clear gesso. Additionally, it is possible to paint directly on the surface without primer or, if a cheap alternative to gesso is needed, to use a cheap alternative to gesso. Do You Need To Use Gesso On Wood? Gesso will be able to be used as a primer on wood. So what happens if you do not use gesso? In Gesso, the surface is prepared (or “primed”), so that it can be painted with acrylic paint. As a result, the paint would soak into the wood if it weren’t gessoed. Can You Paint Acrylic Directly On Wood?Painting on wood can be done with any type of acrylic you prefer. It takes about 20 minutes for acrylic paints to dry. I do not use gesso on my wood carving and use it on art canvass. It is noted with white gesso your paints will show purer in color due to the fact most colors are transparent somewhat and the color below it will show.
                    I like that !! esp the last couple sentences..
                    Chuck
                    Always hoping for a nice slice that won't need sanding!

                    https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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                    • #11
                      Took me quite a while to figure this out. A lot of the western red cedar that I carve is exactly that = a rusty red-brown, tending towards chocolate. There isn't a color, except maybe black, that has any brightness of hue when painted on WRC. 6-8 coats does not work. Dull, drab, not good.

                      What does work is a complete underpainting with titanium white. Colors go on top of that, Then the thinnest carving to sharpen up all the painted edges.
                      As standalone, I think you can see how the T. White looks by itself and it's under everything else.
                      WallRavenBest.jpg
                      Brian T

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brian T View Post
                        Took me quite a while to figure this out. A lot of the western red cedar that I carve is exactly that = a rusty red-brown, tending towards chocolate. There isn't a color, except maybe black, that has any brightness of hue when painted on WRC. 6-8 coats does not work. Dull, drab, not good.

                        What does work is a complete underpainting with titanium white. Colors go on top of that, Then the thinnest carving to sharpen up all the painted edges.
                        As standalone, I think you can see how the T. White looks by itself and it's under everything else.
                        WallRavenBest.jpg
                        I often do this on paintings....because the color will not come out right on top of darker colors so I paint a base color of white and paint on top of it. It really makes the color pop.
                        . Explore! Dream! Discover!” aloha Di

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                        • #13
                          I use Liquitex white acrylic gesso to undercoat or prime my miniature carousel animals. Since my carousel animal carvings are small (5” - 6” overall length), I will thin the gesso with water using approximately 2 parts gesso and 1 part water. Sometimes a little more water as the gesso becomes old. The thinned gesso flows well into the carvings and does not cover up the small carved detail. Typically, I will do two coats, lightly sanding large areas of the carving with extra fine sandpaper after each coat. The gesso and water may raise the grain depending on the piece of basswood. This provides a smooth white surface for painting. Carousel animals are smoothly finished. Others on this topic have commented using gesso as an undercoat this allows the colors of the paint to pop. I agree.

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                          • #14
                            Some of the carvers in my club use Gesso on the whites of the eyes of their Santas
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                            • #15
                              An added NOTE here on my recipe.. I found also that "baby powder as was, is no longer available" due to the J & J thing, But I did use some medicated product that has some Talc in it and did work well. Jus saying also, mgrlvr Thanks for your input here as I am always interested in ideas about this too.
                              Chuck
                              Chuck
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                              https://woodensmallthings.blogspot.com/2021/01/

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