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  • Doug Ridley
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    Bob- Have you ever heard any more as to when you will be getting the WS 2000 to evaluate?

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  • Doug Ridley
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    Well, I got the brochure foom Work Sharp and as I figured it didn't tell me much. Looks like I'll have to wait for Bob to get and review the WS 2000. Sure do wish I could try one out for myself somewhere.

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  • sbirkes
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    Unlike John I did have considerable trouble with sharpening knives on the Jool Tool. When reversing the direction of the knife into the turning direction of the disk I would catch the blade and cut the disk. Some knives were easier than other to sharpen but my favorite detail knife (from David Sabol) has a very thin flexible blade and it simply won't sharpen (at least for me) on the Jool Tool.

    And thin knife points will get hot when using the Jool Tool.
    I do like it for gouges but can get good results in cheaper ways.

    Jool tool works fine for gouges but don't like it for my carving knives because of catching the blade. I don't think the Jool Tool, as designed could be made to be reversible. The way the Ninja disks screw on they would screw off if the motor was reversed.

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    John,
    Sorry you feel that way! I was very impressed with the tool, and didn't notice the motor heat at all (even when I used mine for more than an hour).

    I used it for sharpening everything from Hock-steel plane irons down to my dockyard mini gouges...with no problems.

    That is the subjective nature of reviews, I suppose. I tried the Jool Tool and did like it as well, but for my uses (i sharpen more than just carving tools), it was a better fit. With my planes, specifically, I need to have exact bevels for different cuts (I've got a low-angle jack plane that I have three different irons that give me different cuts). I just couldn't sharpen that on the Jool Tool. The Worksharp is the only power tool I've ever trusted with my plane irons.

    I also didn't have a problem with the wobble you mention...

    Your post does make me question their quality control, though!

    Bob

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  • Doug Ridley
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    That is the sale price but I can't tell you exactly what comes with it but they are sending me some brochures plus when Bob gets the test model we will know. When I get the brochures I'll post again. This thing looks to me like it will do the exact same job as the Jool Tool at about one third of the money. Stay tuned.

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  • xsailer
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    Hello Doug, your previous comments refered to $100? Is that the sale price and do you know what comes with it? Been looking at the Jool system and it's three times that.

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  • Doug Ridley
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    Well, I talked with a customer service rep at the Work Sharp place in Ashland, Oregon today about the differences in the WS3000 and the WS2000. My take is that the 2000 will do all I need for carving and lathe tools. One thing they assured me of is that the machine WILL be available within a week or 10 days and that the sale will be on for some time, giving me a chance to see what Bob has to say after testing it. Waiting on you, Bob.
    Doug

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  • johnbcck
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    This thing looked good on paper until I bought one. Very disappointing. My Swiss carving tools turned blue because there is absolutely NO AIR FLOW as they claim. The abrasives tore up easily, and were poor in quality. The speed is very slow, hard to repair chips or change a bevel fast. The "so called" see through disc is very dark and shadey, and I had my eyes done, so I have good vision. You CANNOT polish while seeing what your doing either, only sandpaper. It is impossible to do a knife or ANY flat object, whether it's a router bit, a lawn mower blade because you CANNOT get your tool flush with the "so called" see through wheel. Since you reviewed it, you did not mention how hot the motor gets, even when you use it for a minute! Just touch the side of the machine, and you'll easily feel it. A very IMPORTANT PROBLEM is that both the Glass wheel, and the See-through wheel WOBBLE, China made. They DO NOT run true! Also there is no way to polish the inside of your v-tool, or gouges.

    I saw an add for the JOOLTOOL in your mag, and purchased one as soon as I recieved my credit from Garret Wade. Boy talk about NIGHT and DAY! You can really see Super clear through their Ninja wheel. They use 3M industrial streghth abrasives too,that last very long, I'll post when they start to die down, so far I have sharpened all my tools (over 50)and they are still going strong! I love this thing. I could polish the outside of my gouges while seeing what I'm doing with the felt wheel and use the 3M brush thing to polish the inside (does not come in kit) My friend told me Tom Matuss likes it for knives, so I tried it and it was really easy. The girl on the phone told me a light touch and NOT to drag the tools edge off the Ninja wheel-made sense. It was easy and the tip did NOT catch in either direction, I know I couldn't believe it either! Best of all the Jtool has a forward tilt so you don't have to hover over it, like the other one.. She said it's because they sell it to factories for production, good motor. I also read this is the sysytem Flexcut uses in their factory. It was ONLY $79 more, for quality thats not bad, and its made in USA, don't see that much anymore. Wait theres more, ALL my tools stayed COOL the airlow from the wheel is tremendous, and it was at 5,000 RPM! Thats INNOVATION! Bob you need a Jooltool

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    BTW...the only thing I've found difficult to sharpen on it is my draw knife (I've got a bent-handled one)...the bevel just doesn't fit onto the rotating disc well...but it did a great job "lapping" the back (flat) side!!!

    Bob

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    I have not tried it yet, Doug...so I really don't know what it's like! But if the quality is like the 3000, well...I was really impressed with the 3000!

    Bob

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  • Doug Ridley
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    Sounds like to me that the WS2000 is all I would need if I am only interested in sharpening carving tools. It is shown at $100.00 if pre ordered. Hmmmmm...

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    That's what I thought too. But I want to try it to be sure. They also claim to have a heat-sink...but I'm not sure about that either.

    I know the glass wheels heated up the tools a little bit (nothing to bother you; I still held the tools comfortably in my bare hand).

    I think the main importance is to use the appropriate grit. If you have a lot of material to remove, use an rougher grit. If you move up through the grits, the tools don't get too hot.

    Bob

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  • xsailer
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    BobD,
    Usually higher sharpener speed equals faster heat on the blade. They must count on the slotted abrasive surface and cooling system, shown on the video, to overcome heat retention. I would be foolish to not think they haven't thought this out though.

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    The 3000 is the low-speed version with all the bells and whistles--the adjustable angle jig for flat chisels. It is great for the general purpose shop, where you have plane irons, woodworking chisels, etc. that you want to put specific bevels on.

    The 2000 has only one angle you can set at. It's also a high-speed tool. I haven't tried the 2000 yet, but my gut tells me it may be better for carvers; the high speed will make the slotted wheel action smoother.

    Bob

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  • BobD (Archive)
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    The only tool I've seen that has a reverse is the Port-a-Strop, but that is only available on their high-end version. Thanks Dave!

    Bob

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