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    I am in the market for a 1/4" V tool. I was just at the Dayton Carving show, and only seen 1/4 in Ramelson tool. Decided to tool around now, is there a good or better V tool than another? Assume a 60 degree is a more all around tool is what i was told. any input?

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    Re: 1/4 V tool

    Does it have to be 1/4" or can it be the metric equivalent. If so, I really like my Pfeil V tool. Like my Flexcut and Millers Falls, too. The Millers Falls are now defunct, so you have to find them second hand. In metric (such as Pfeil or Two Cherries uses) you are looking for 6mm.

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    • #3
      Re: 1/4 V tool

      Pfeil or Drake for me.
      Drake Knives.com - V Tools

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      • #4
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        In terms of angle, there are six or seven different tool numbers, all for different angles.
        1/4" translates as 6mm metric.
        I would be happy to give you all the tool # numbers for all the different angles but it seems that I have hidden the *&&*^%[email protected] book on myself. Not happy.

        Whenever you need to make a very wide and deep V groove, run a stop cut down the middle. Cut back into that with skews. Go again until you reach the depth and width that you need.

        When I want a Vee groove, 3/4" wide and 3/4" deep, there is not a tool on the planet that can cut that in one pass.
        Brian T

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        • #5
          Re: 1/4 V tool

          I've been really pleased with Henry Taylor tools. They will need to be tuned tho.

          Henry Taylor Palm Tools

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          • #6
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            RV makes an important point - you rarely use a gouge to make cuts equal to the overall dimensions of the gouge. That is, you should not attempt a 1/4 inch cut (wide or deep) with a 1/4 inch V-tool. Many gouges are designed to use only a portion of the cutting edge - sometimes the middle, sometimes the corners. When I look at the shavings from my relief carving, most are less than half the width of the tool I'm using.

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            • #7
              Re: 1/4 V tool

              Pallin summed it up nicely, larger v-tools can make smaller v cuts. Sometimes it's nice to have a smaller one to work in areas where a larger won't fit, but most of the time, I'm reaching for a 6mm and just using a small portion of the cutting edge.

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              • #8
                Re: 1/4 V tool

                The V-tool angles that Robson Valley referred to are as follows: (Pfeil numbers, full size)
                #12= 60 deg. #13= 90 deg. #14= 55 deg. #15= 45 deg. #16= 35 deg. They come in widths from 1mm to 30mm but some only 3mm & 6mm. The #14's are rounded at the V. You can also get some long bent & spoon bent #12's.
                In the Intermediate size gouges you can get only #12's and one #14-6mm

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                • #9
                  Re: 1/4 V tool

                  I was hoping to determine if there is a difference in the degree of the VEE tool? I see a lot of mention of a 60 degree v tool, in palm tools it seems to be a 60 degree vee is the tool of choice, but is a 70 or 45 degree 1/4 just as good for an all around fee tool usage in a palm tool?

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                  • #10
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                    I find a 45 degree tool to be fine and don't mind using it compared to a 60 at all, but I don't like to go the other way. I find 70 to be just a bit too much... Just an opinion and usage thing.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 1/4 V tool

                      I am curious how other carvers are using their V-tools. Are you using them for rapid wood removal (rough shaping), or for making fine grooves (as in Santa beards), or what? I use mine only for making grooves, but I generally prefer making grooves with a knife.

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                      • #12
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                        I'm with you pallin, I usually use mine for grooves... but sometimes I use it to clean up the crook in the neck or between feet and legs-well you get the picture. I like my v-tools.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 1/4 V tool

                          Originally posted by pallin View Post
                          I am curious how other carvers are using their V-tools. Are you using them for rapid wood removal (rough shaping), or for making fine grooves (as in Santa beards), or what? I use mine only for making grooves, but I generally prefer making grooves with a knife.
                          I use mine for both.

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                          • #14
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                            My V-tool very rarely gets used for carving. I use it in place of a pencil.


                            S~
                            Carvito ergo sum.

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                            • #15
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                              I use a soft V-tool for roughing in features. My V-tools are for "hard" lines, arms, pant leg bottoms, etc.
                              Steve Reed - Carvin' in the flatlands!
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