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    I have been trying to order the 70mm swan neck gouge and the 4inch sloyd from nic and have waited a couple months and so far he hasnt seen to make them or post them on the website. I have sent him a email and he has responded with it takes time to make them, which i can understand. I have looked around and cant really find anything that compares.
    so here is the question does anyone know of a smith that makes a 70mm swan neck gouge or a 4 inch sloyd but nic? i mean i want to be a faithful customer but i only hve so much patience. s
    If you can post me a email i would appreciate it, as Im still having a lot of trouble getting used to the new forum. thanks

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  • #2
    Re: nic westermann gouges etc

    What are your carving projects? Anything like feast bowls, spoons and so on? You might be beter off dealing with established PacNW bladesmiths.
    I looked over Westermann\'s web site. He\'s got a huge range of edges to mean that he\'s spread pretty thin. Lots of one-of-a-kind in his site?

    PacNW native carvers trump anybody for bowls and spoons. Might as well deal with their bladesmiths. I do.

    You ever seen a row of 4 feast bowls, cedar, so dang big that they have wheels? UBC/MOA, in the big room.
    Brian T

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    • #3
      Re: nic westermann gouges etc

      ok yeah can you give me a link or two to peruse? I\'ll try searching for a pacnw bladesmith but i have never seen it on the net. I am not sure what a feast bowl is, but i have done a few large bowls and a lot of spoons. I would be happy to deal with someone with a good product so shoot me a link and ill try searching it out

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      • #4
        Re: nic westermann gouges etc

        These guys are probably the top:

        http://kestreltool.com/index.html

        http://www.northbayforge.com/index.htm
        Brian T

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        • #5
          Re: nic westermann gouges etc

          Don\'t appear to be able to post functional links. Sorry
          Brian T

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          • #6
            Re: nic westermann gouges etc

            I\\\\\\\'ll try to get them to work
            http://www.northbayforge.com/index.htm
            http://kestreltool.com/index.html

            The links are working for me. Do they work for anyone else?

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            • #7
              Re: nic westermann gouges etc

              Thanks, steev, yours work, mine don\'t = sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
              Brian T

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              • #8
                Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                Originally posted by Robson Valley View Post
                Thanks, steev, yours work, mine don\\\'t = sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
                You don\'t have enough backslashes!

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                • #9
                  Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                  Pfeil calls that style of gouge a spoon gouge. Woodcraft has them available in sweeps of 3, 5, 7, etc. and widths up to 30mm.

                  Claude
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                  • #10
                    Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                    rickm was asking for a 70mm, that\'s nearly (75mm) 3\" across. Very, very big push in the wood. My Stubai carving adze is a 7/75 and that really is work, even swinging it.

                    In less than 3 weeks, chances are I will have some 12\" - 24\" diameter cottonwood log pieces to try my hand at carving big feast bowls. Already, I\'m looking at the 2 1/2\" lip adze blade from Kestrel Tool.
                    Might whip it into a D-adze handle ( I carver 4 of those) and try it before I mess about making a Sitka adze handle.

                    The Diamond Willow furniture shop is carving a track into a new harvesting site. The beaver have knocked over 10-15 big cottonwoods along the river. So, they figure that they might as well haul something out for the sweat equity of getting in there. The beaver even attempted to buck the logs into pieces but too heavy for even them to move!
                    Brian T

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                    • #11
                      Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                      steev, your links work simply by clicking them.
                      Robson Valley, your links do work provided you copy-paste them into the browser.
                      interesting
                      Denny

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                      • #12
                        Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                        He\\\'s not asking for a spoon gouge 70mm across.
                        Nic Westermann has some not readily apparent way of specifying gouges.
                        http://nicwestermann.co.uk/shop/gree...ck-bowl-gouge/

                        Edit I guess I should read the web pages I link before commenting. The 70mm is the diameter of the sweep.
                        Last edited by Steev; 04-24-2015, 12:36 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                          I\'ve looked at Westermann\'s pic of his 70mm. It\'s big. If he has no plans to make any in the next while, shop elsewhere.
                          Kestrel and North Bay are bladesmiths with great reputations and tools.

                          Charlie (@ Kestrel) recommended the 2.5\" lip adze blade for bowls just yesterday.
                          Brian T

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                          • #14
                            Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                            you guys have brought up my other concern a 70 mm gouge might be a bit much to push thru wood. I have a pfeil #5/35 and its ok in basswood but when i get to a piece of maple i need to use a mallet with it. I like the idea of a bigger gouge but I have wondered if i can move a 70mm. I was thinking of a adze but i dont think i could use one for long with all the stensis i have. Maybe I should stay with a smaller gouge etc and really think this out before i spend 150 bucks and find out i can use it.
                            I like the idea of a bigger knife as well, and a lot of the English bushcraft folks use bigger knives but that is a lot of blade to swing around and keep sharp and using it for awhile might be more fatifguing than useful. There migh be a reason why most carving knives are 3inches or smaller.
                            Guiys keep up the discussion and help me think this thru. thanks bunchies.

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                            • #15
                              Re: nic westermann gouges etc

                              The web site http://nicwestermann.co.uk/shop/gree...ck-bowl-gouge/
                              says that the dimensions are quote:Tool approx 160mm x20mm x 45mm ( cutting edge)unquote
                              A 45mm gouge with a sweep diameter of 70° is approximately a #6 sweep in Pfiel measurements. I note also that he says quote: Not designed to be struck. Supplied with a forged, tapered ferrule. unquote. You could get that same sweep radius with a #3-6mm, a #4-22mm, or a #5-32mm (approximately)

                              Claude
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